# Expansion and Compression Tanks Formulas – Part 2

Norm Hall
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October 10, 2011

Last week the Monday Morning Minute introduced the expansion and compression tank formula. We described the numerator as the tank acceptance. The formula is (Ef – Ep) X Vs where Vs is the system volume and (Ef – Ep) is the expansion of the fluid minus the expansion of pipe. Let’s review some of the required data.

The volume of the system is the most difficult item to calculate. Some drawing design programs will calculate the system volume for you. Sometimes you have the difficult task of measuring the pipe lengths and the need for a spreadsheet. Bell and Gossett offers a quick selection program in the ESP-PLUS. This program offers a handy calculator to help with the manual calculations saving time and money.

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The expansion of the fluid and pipe is calculated from the fill temperature to the average maximum temperature of the system. This is often miss-understood. It is not the delta T of the system or the return temperature to the supply temperature. Example: Assume you have a closed heating system in Cleveland with a supply temperature of 180°F and a return temperature of 150°F. The average of the design water temperature is 165°F. In a worst case, in the winter, the fill temperature could be 40°F. So the initial temperature is 40°F and the maximum average temperature is 165°F.

 Showing 180°F Supply and 30°F ΔT so the average temperature is 165°F Showing 180°F Supply and 2°F ΔT so the average temperature of the design is 179°F If the reset system does not work there could be times when the delta T is very low. Often the engineer might select the maximum temperature very near the design supply temperature. This will result in a bit of oversizing of the tank but also provides a measure of safety factor. Here are snapshots of the ESP-PLUS program showing both methods.

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